Friday, December 1, 2017

Are All Religions a Unifying Force?

Pope Francis in his address in Bangledesh Nov 30th says the following,

Although my visit is primarily addressed to Bangladesh’s Catholic community, a privileged moment will be my meeting tomorrow in Ramna with ecumenical and interreligious leaders. Together we will pray for peace and reaffirm our commitment to work for peace. Bangladesh is known for the harmony that has traditionally existed between followers of the various religions. This atmosphere of mutual respect and a growing climate of interreligious dialogue enables believers to express freely their deepest convictions about the meaning and purpose of life. In this way, they can contribute to promoting the spiritual values that are the sure basis for a just and peaceful society. In a world where religion is often – scandalously – misused to foment division, such a witness to its reconciling and unifying power is all the more necessary.

Once again we see Pope Francis peddling this idea of this supposed unifying power of various religions. Although many religions share some similarities in their moral beliefs, they are far from unifying. By the fact that these different religions profess to have their own set of "truths" or philosophies, they are in contradiction to one another. There is no common good to truly be found outside of Jesus Christ. We can only go so far with the natural law. Even with the light of the natural law these other religions teach things that are contrary to the natural law. Pope Francis seems to think that this religious diversity is a good thing that can bring some type of unity to a culture or society. This of course is contrary to reason. This can be seen by the very fact that this diversity never leads to a stable society.

This ecumenical interreligious "mission" has to stop. How is Pope Francis calling those that are in the dark forces of diabolic religions and cults such as Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism to Christ?  He is in Bangladesh where 90% of the population is Muslim! How is that a diverse harmony of religions? How is their "spiritual values" a sure basis for a just and peaceful society? The answer is, it isn't. Islam's "spiritual values" are toxic to any culture, because it promotes falsehoods against God! Catholicism is less than 1%! What is he doing about that? Where is the call to the conversion to Christ in his addresses? There aren't any. There is not even a hint of it. It is all about making a worldly utopia, which is never going to happen. That being said, nothing is going to even improve without the light of Christ. There is no unifying good that comes from a diversity of religions which is why Christ called us to preach the Gospel to all nations.

Pope Pius IX wrote in his encyclical Qui Pluribus the following truth,

 15. Also perverse is the shocking theory that it makes no difference to which religion one belongs, a theory which is greatly at variance even with reason. By means of this theory, those crafty men remove all distinction between virtue and vice, truth and error, honorable and vile action. They pretend that men can gain eternal salvation by the practice of any religion, as if there could ever be any sharing between justice and iniquity, any collaboration between light and darkness, or any agreement between Christ and Belial.


Catholic Mission said...

DECEMBER 1, 2017

It is an irrationality which forms the lex orandi lex credendi of Catholics during Holy Mass in all Rites

That outside the Church there is no known salvation should be the traditional theology of the Traditional Latin Mass for FIUV (Una Voce) Latin Mass Societies and Dr.Joseph Shaw -but it isn't.
Instead for all them it is outside the Church there is known salvation,possibilities are actual known cases in the present times,invisible people are visible and so unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are known exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) in 2017.
It is with this irrationality Catholics attend Holy Mass in all Rites and it is part of their lex orandi lex credendi.There is no correction from Joseph Shaw and the Una Voce(FIUV).No position paper on this subject inspite of so many reports on the Internet.
Vatican Council II is interpreted with the irrational, invisible- people -are -visible premise even though there is a rational choice for Una Voce.The choice would not be politically correct and so Joseph Shaw allows Catholics to remain in their ignorance, with heretical and new doctrines to choose from.He supports the Mass in the Extraordinary Form to be offered with the New Ecclesiology based on invisible cases of BOD,BOB and I.I being visible exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church which accompanied the Latin and Greek Mass.
A tutor( professor) of philosophy at leftist Oxford University,U.K he cannot affirm Feeneyite EENS( without the irrational premise),nor Feeneyite Vatican Council II( without the irrational premise).It would be opposed by the university and the laws in England(Ofsted).So Una Voce and the Latin Mass Societies allow Catholics to remain in ignorance.An irrationality in philosophy and theology is part of the lex orandi lex credendi
So the TLM today is not the same as the Latin Mass of the past.The ecclesiology of Joseph Shaw's Latin Mass and that of the one offered in the U.K and the USA is the same as the ecclesiology of the Novus Ordo Mass.Instead there can be a Novus Ordo Mass in which for the priest and community has an ecclesiology which is exclusivist and pro Vatican Council II( Feeneyite-premise free) and EENS ( Feeneyite-premise free) unlike the Tridentine Rite Mass in general today.

Una Voce could make an announcement.This would be the first step, to getting back to the old ecclesiology of the Church during the Tridentine Rite Mass.The simply announcement would be that invisible for us baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are not visible exceptions to EENS, as it was known to the missionaries in the 16th century during the Latin Mass.There are no known cases of the baptism of desire in 2017. Shaw, a professor of philosophy is aware that this is a violation of the Principle of Non Contradiction. Invisible people cannot be visible at the same time.Then these 'visible' people cannot be put forward as examples of salvation outside the Church.They cannot be objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.So in this way there is no obligation to affirm Feeneyite during Holy Mass for Una Voce.
FIUV could affirm the obvious : there are no visible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I in our reality.-Lionel Andrades

November 30, 2017
With this irrational theology, the new theology of the two popes, there is lex orandi and lex credendi among the traditionalists and liberals

Matthew Bellisario said...

Your statement, "So the TLM today is not the same as the Latin Mass of the past.The ecclesiology of Joseph Shaw's Latin Mass and that of the one offered in the U.K and the USA is the same as the ecclesiology of the Novus Ordo Mass."

This is simply not true. I have been to many TLMs in the US and many believe the perennial teaching of the Church. This is a gross oversimplification. I don't follow Shaw, be this idea does not seem to be dictating the teaching on this subject at the TLMs I attend.